Running a podcast – the gift that keeps on giving. This time our favorite co-host J-M and one of our guests, Caspar Jans (Episode 16 – Management of Change) are tag-teaming on Mirko Kloppenburg’s “New Process” podcast.
And coincidentally, Mirko is also the guest of our current Episode 33 – How to inspire people for process?

In this episode Caspar and J-M are acting as employees of Software AG and discuss with Mirko how ARIS has evolved over the years and how it is a “human-centered BPM tool” that Mirko is looking for (I am waiting for the time when he asks me to talk about iGrafx *hinthint*).

Listen to the entertaining episode below. Enjoy!